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Have you changed your address or any contact details? In order to keep receiving the Newsletter or details of any forth-coming events, please be sure to notify either or Hon. Sec or Hon. Treasurer of any changes in your contact details through info@manchesterliners.co.uk We are now regularly gaining new members through this site. Members will be notified of changes through their hard copy of the Newsletter that is sent out twice yearly. Interim updates are also available to members on request. For reasons of Data Protection, member contact details have been removed from this page and are made only available to other members of the Association in the hard copy Newsletter or from Hon.Sec.
This is a message for Gavin Wight [ g.wight@btopenworld.com] Thank you for your request for membership, we have tried to contact you but are having our emails to you returned as your address appears to have an error in it. Please contact us again with your corrected email address, your postal address and your telephone number. Regards Hon Sec
February 2008 Once again the website has brought in another 6 members WELCOME to you all – hope to see you at one of the Reunions Peter Harrison
Peter Harrison - known as Mick the Cashier1966-1983 - Joined 1966 in cash office - spent most of time as Wages Clerk paying off ships at a variety of ports across Europe - transferred to DP 1981-1983 - made redundant.Peter wrote Happy days. Peter Harrison
William David Grady - Bill1941-1946 - Manchester Exporter 1941 under Capt Downing, then Manchester Merchant under Captain Struss till it went down in 1943: donkey man for 6 months then the Manchester Shipper till end of war.Bill contacted the website –
Capt. J. P. McKenna, - John & ClaireCadet 1968-1974 Joined April 1968 as a Cadet on Manchester Commerce with Captain John Askew. Served on Mariner, Exporter, Courage as Cadet. First job as 3rd. Officer was the Quest on her for 9 months. Then I went to Courage, Crusade, Concorde and last Ship was Quest as 2nd Officer. Left Company in June 1974 John also found MLOSA through the website – Good Morning Only discovered the web site yesterday while checking
a few things out . Just retired as Pilot in Dublin Port, retiring age 60, so went in April. Now Assistant Harbour Master in Dublin Port. Regards,
John Patrick Mitchell - Mitch & Marion1960- 1964 - Joined ML as Deck Apprentice in Toronto Nov 11 1960 Manchester City. Sailed on Progress Faith Fame Spinner Mariner and Commerce. Completed apprenticeship Dec 1964 John wrote - My name is John Mitchell, and I joined ML on November
11th 1960 in Toronto on Manchester City to commence my 4 year deck apprenticeship,
which I completed. I gained my second-mates then moved on to other companies
before getting my Masters Certificate in 1973. Many thanks,
Mr John & Roxanne Sutton 1952-1957 - April 52 Progress JOS - July – Oct 54 Regiment AB – Mariner 56 AB – Spinner twice Jan-March 57 AB – Shipper 57 passage John wrote: I would be interested in joining your organisation
having sailed as deckhand on four liners between 1951 and 1957 and as
passenger on one.
Mr John G Daniels – John & Jean1948-1952 and 1958 - Apprentice Manchester Trader Oct 48-Aug 49, Shipper
Aug 49-Oct 50, Trader Oct 50-Mar 51, Regiment Mar 51-Sept 52
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Earnest Jones has decided not to renew his membership
He sent an e-mail to say as he is getting on in years and lived too far
away to get to either of our meetings so he felt it prudent to
resign. We wish him well and hope he will still keep in touch.
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CHANGES TO THE CREW LIST
NEW MEMBERS
Since the last Newsletter in February we have 13 new members.
It is quite amazing!.
Our membership now stands at 128.
Mr Alan Jones
Mr Malcolm Ross
Mr Harold Appleyard
Mr Neil Glendinning
Mr David Sumner
Mr Mark Greenhalgh
Mr Donald McDermott
Mr Michael James
Mr Edward Wardle
Mr Peter Thompson
Frank Nichol
Captain John Turnbull
Philip Moran
It is with pleasure the Association welcomes all the new members
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Alan Jones joined in March 2007
Alan's Liner's background started in 1962 with a trial trip in Miller
with the then Commodore Fred Downing c/o Moose Watson, 2/o David Oliver,
3/o Len Clark; Then followed with 1962 on Merchant with
Capt Danny Hine, c/o Jim Illingworth; 1962-63 Faith with Capt Askew;
c/o Mike Butler 1964-65 a long stint on Shipper with Capt Lewis c/o Ken
Rouke for most of the time, also Klondike Lehepuu & many others. End
of 1966 finished up where he came in on Miller; Then left and
went on to do mates & masters elsewhere.
Alan wrote: "I sailed with Capt. Askew
on the Faith in '63 on the Lakes run. I remember him well! I was
also lucky enough to escape the N. Atlantic when she made a few trips
for Prince Line down the Med.
………Is there going to be a meeting at St. Annes in May?
Alan joined us at St Annes for the Sunday lunch, and will be at Didsbury at the end of October.
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Malcolm & Louise Ross Joined April 2007
Malcolm served as Carpenter with Liners from 1954 through to April 1982
and then went on to Furness Withy.
During his Liners years he sailed from July 1954 to Dec 55 on Trader. In April 56 he joined M/c Vanguard and was there until Sept 58. Then in October 1958 he joined the Venture to Sept 59, Nov 59-Feb 60 on the Regiment; Merchant April 60 to Sept 67;M/c Port Oct 67-through to Oct 1971; Dec 71 - Jan 72 on M/c Courage, Jan to Feb 72 on M/c Quest and then in April 72 to Oct 73 on Concept. Malcolm says he then ran out of space on the application form as he stayed with Liners right up until April 1982 before transferring to Furness Withy.
Malcolm and Louise were also able to join the St Annes weekend in May and have booked for Didsbury in October
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Mr David & Enid Sumner joined April 2007
David sailed as sparks on the Manchester ExplorerJuly 1953 - Nov 1954.
He writes - My dad, Tom Sumner, after fighting in Gallipoli and the Somme during WW1 sailed with ML continuously from 1920 to 1954, He was Chief Steward with ML 1922 - 1954.
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Harold & Helen Appleyard were joined up by their son Stephen in June 2007.
He says…My father is currently alive
and well aged 83 and living in Montreal and would love to contact some
of his old ship mates especially Capt. Askew.
(Peter Cullen advises if you are on talktalk, preceed the number with
18418 and the cost of the call is Nil.)
Stephen Appleyard is his "contact point" in Manchester.
Peter Cullen says:
Harold was Catering Officer off Manchester
Challenge, Concorde and other ships too numerous to mention.
He was my Chief Steward on a number of ships, and believe me in a group
he is the life and soul of the party and keeps all amused, very quick
with his repartee. He mentioned he had seen Blake Nelson
who had been telling him all about us, and that is what has sparked things
off re MLOSA.
Harold was always known as "H" - to
name a few he would remember, Bob Bowen, Tony Rowlands, Ray Camelleri,
Pete Frier, Geoff Evans, Mike Hatton, Brian and Bill Sellers, Pat
Humphrey, Jim
Illingworth, Bryon Hancock, Pete Moorwood, Eddie Richardson, Rod Gregson,
Brian Redfearn, Bryan Whitby, Derek Porter, Don Corker, John Norcliffe,
John Newby, Ernie Moore, Roger Llewellyn and many more.
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Neil & Elaine Glendinning joined June 2007
Neil was with Liners from 1973 to 1981.
He writes -
I joined the Manchester Concept in 1973 first trip deck cadet in Felixstowe
(last minute diversion from 9 dock), for two trips to Montreal. Flew home
six months later from LA.
Spent 9 months seconded to PSNC at end of apprenticeship as punishment for not completing correspondence course studies, enjoyed it marvellously so brought back to ML as soon as I passed 2nd mate's.
3/o on Vigour, Zeal, Concept, Challenge, Crusade, Renown, Reward & Vanguard, promoted 2/o 1978.
Left in 1981 as 2/o as ships were starting to be sold, and joined offshore sector anchor handling and rig moving (rapid promotion as not many stuck it!) left as master in 1990 an came ashore piloting, initially at Lowestoft.
Currently senior pilot at Haven Ports (Felixstowe, Harwich and Ipswich). Beats having a real job!
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Mark Greenhalgh & Nina joined August 2007
Fleetwood Nautical College - Manchester Liners as a deck cadet
- served on Manchester Renown, Manchester City, and Manchester Courage
(but taken off ill) from late 1968 to 1970/71.
I served with Roger Llewyllen ( 2nd mate at the time), Ivor Curry (4 Engineer at time), It would be great to contact some of my old shipmates that even I can not remember so long a go.
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Donald (Mac) McDermott joined
August 2007
Mac was a Storekeeper with Liners for 26 years.
1955 Manchester City, 1959 Commerce, Miller, Progress, Reward,
Concorde, Venture, Frontier, Crusade
Message from: Don
Hello there
Glad to hear from you. Your website has a lot of old friends who
I have not seen for thirty years at least.
It's wonderful !!
thank
you …………. Donald Mac
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Michael James joined August 2007
Joined Manchester Progress Aug 70 as deck cadet - 6 trips on Progress
(first trip with Capt Cullen) and various others ships.
Sailed as 3rd mate Crusade, Frontier, Vigour, Courage. Stood by Asian Reward as 3rd Mate in Smiths Dock Middlesboro. Sailed as 3rd mate on her maiden voyage to the Far East. My final voyage for ML was on Zeal in 75 with Capt Cockshoot. Left Dec 1975.
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Edward (Bob) Wardle & Christine Davies joined September 2007
1st trip old Progress June 1957 - four maidens - two Renowns, Vigour
with Capt Cullen, Venture.
Last trip Frontier - 4 & half yrs shore gang.
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Peter and Elizabeth Thompson joined August 2007
Joined Manchester Liners July 1966 as 3rd mate on Manchester Miller till
1968. Then Challenge Class as 2nd Mate. Chief Officer in
1973 - various container ships Vigour, Zeal, Frontier, Reward, Courage,
etc
Finally left December 1977 for shore employment
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Frank and Alison Nichol joined September 2007
Worked for ML from 1973 to 1979. Joined as 4th Engineer on Challenge
Class including Challenge, Concorde, Concept, Courage, Crusade. Also
on Faith and Frontier.
Retired in 2005.
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Captain John and Lynn Turnbull joined September 2007
Joined ML as c/o in May 1973; promoted Master 1976
on Seatrain Trenton.
Master until redundant in 1981.
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Philip Moran joined September 2007
First voyage Manchester Courage 11/12/1971 as Naval Cadet through to
last voyage in 24/2/1975 on Manchester Vigour - joined Manchester
Liners as a Navigating Cadet in December 1971- first voyage was with
Capt Cockshoot on the Manchester Courage . Also sailed with Capt Fielding,
Hawthorne, Askew and Baker. Stayed with the Company until
May 1975, when I moved to Ropner Shipping and then to Whitco Marine/Salem I
left the seafaring life in July 1979. I am still playing with containers
today at Manchester Rail Freight Terminal.
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In addition to the above new members we have two honorary members to welcome:
John Slavin from Manchester
John has been offered honorary membership in recognition of the help he has given, and still does give, to our webmaster Derrick Howarth in setting up the photo archive file on the web site.
John has provided the majority of the ship pictures which appear on the web site, for which we are very grateful.
On behalf of the membership I wish him a long and interesting time as a member of our Association.
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Russ and Beth Eis from San Diego, U.S.A.
"Rescue of Yacht Desert Princess by Seatrain Trenton"….in Newsletter No 5, pages 8/9 Capt Peter Cullen told of the rescue of Russ and Beth Eis and recovery of their yacht Desert Princess by the Seatrain Trenton on the 21st August 1978.
Over the intervening years Russ & Beth have
kept in touch with Peter and are ever grateful for their rescue that
day.
They still maintain a great interest in the goings on of MLOSA and so
it was thought a nice gesture to make them honorary "associate" members.
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RESIGNATIONS
It is with regret that I have to report that Joyce
Hilton has decided not to renew her subscription.
She sent a very kind email and wished the Association continued success,
to which I replied expressing our regrets and wishing her well. It is
always sad when someone decides to leave our merry band.
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With all the changes over the past 12 months new membership lists will be circulated as soon as we have spare pages in a newsletter without exceeding the basic 2nd class postage rate.
New lists are always available at the reunions or on request by phone or by email to your Hon Sec.
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Since the Newsletter Sept/Oct 2006 we have gained another10 new members –all due to Derrick’s work on the MLOSA web site.
Keith Darley - Australia
George Rushworth - South Africa
Andrew Lacey - Merseyside
Bill Nichol - Manchester
Moreland Smith - Manchester
Frank Priest - Cleethorpe, Lincs
Stephen Lyons - Huddersfield
Richard Simpson - Halifax
James Catlow - Colne, Lancs
Michael Brown - Manchester
It is with pleasure the Association welcomes all the new members. It was good to see so many of the local new members at Didsbury 2006.
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Keith & Christine Darley joined
in October 2006
Eng app Bolton Tech 62-64 then Manchester City 64-65; Mariner, Port 65-66;
City as 3rd Eng; Commerce, Renown, Faith, Merit, as 2nd Eng up to 1971.
Keith’s introduction email was printed in the last Newsletter.
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George & Gail Rushworth joined
October 2006
1966-1972 – Electrical Officer –Miller, City, Commerce, Port,
Progress and Concept.
George wrote:
I have sailed with both Captain Eric Askew. and Captain Peter Cullen.
on the Manchester Commerce and Manchester Progress in the late 60's.
I thank you for the invitation to attend your Didsbury bi annual meeting.
You will appreciate that as I reside in South Africa I will not be attending
this time. I returned from a two month holiday in the UK at the end of
June this year, It's such a pity that I did not know of your Association
until I returned to South Africa.
Brief history of my life, post Manchester Liners. 1972-2002 employed by
ASEA BROWN BOVERI both in the UK (London) and Southern Africa. Johannesburg
- Cape Town - Port Elizabeth - and Botswana. First as a Commissioning
Engineer (UK). Then as Project
Engineer. and Regional Manager, (South Africa) finally Managing Director
(Botswana) until retirement in 2000.
Called back from retirement to Consult for a couple of years.
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Andrew (Andy) & Diane Lacey
joined in October 2006 in time for the Didsbury Reunion
October 1973 – June 1981 as Chief Officer, Supercargo, Master &
Owners Representative in the Eastern Mediterranean
Andy wrote in:
I was with ML from Oct 73 to June 81, as Chief Officer, Supercargo, Master
and Owners Representative in the Eastern Mediterranean. Not a long time
compared to many of your members.
Most of the time since leaving ML, I have spent as master on nuclear cargo
ships, including armed vessels on higher security voyages, until leaving
in 2004. Initially I then spent a year around the Irish Sea involved in
heavy lift, salvage and dredging work and getting a pilot exemption certificate
for the Mersey, before deciding to retire.
This was short lived as I was contacted by various colleagues from the
past and presently have three jobs:
1) ship traffic control at Liverpool port operations vts,
2) consultancy work for radioactive shipments,
3) carrying out cargo surveys.
I will have to retire again soon as my wife, Diane is getting fed up doing
all the work around the house and garden!
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Bill Nichol joined in October 2006
– also in time to join the Didsbury Reunion
Joined Shipper in ’59, 3 trips with Capt Bewley to Montreal; Port
1959-60 Miami & Eastern Seaboard with Capt Askew; Faith- Fame Capt
Jones & Capt Rushworth – Lakes in 1960 June to October, then
Vanguard & Venture 61-62 Capt Askew & Capt Taylor.
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Moreland & Norrie Smith joined
in October 2006 – also at the Didsbury Reunion
Sailed 2nd Steward Prospector, Regiment, Fame, Miller, Spinner, Shipper,
Challenge, Concorde, Renown, Crusade, Vigour, Asian Renown and Canadian
Explorer.
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Frank Priest joined in December 2006
1962-63 Manchester Progress
Frank saw the website and wrote in:
Manchester Progress in 1962/63. Am I still eligible to join as I was only
a deck boy?.
I only did three trips, as the thought of returning to Halifax….it
seemed to me to be the coldest place on earth, I couldn’t stop shaking
on the foc’sle as we approached the Port. However, I enjoyed my
short time with the "Liners", and have always regretted not
staying with the vessel. I have quite a bit of memorabilia, including
my pay slips, Manchester Liners News from January1963, photographs, including
a superb picture of her circa.1960.
The crew and the bosun were very good to me, and taught me a lot. As well
as the normal "tasks", I was taught how to steer the ship, and
how to operate the steam winches.
I revisited No. 9 Dock with a friend in 1983 and it was so sad to see
how the docks had deteriorated. The only people we spoke to were the dock
police and the staff at Mode Wheel lock. I then visited Furness House,
where I met some very helpful office staff, who gave me a photo of the
vessel, and at a later date a copy of the vessel’s original registration
certificate with a brief history right until she was broke up by the shipbreaking
firm of Brodospas in Split, Yugoslavia in 1966.
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Stephen Lyons & Elizabeth joined
early January 2007
Joined in 1973 as Junior Engineer – left 1979 as 3rd Engineer on
Asian Renown 1975.
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Mr James (Jim) & Janet Catlow joined
January 2007
Joined 1972 as 4th Engineer – sailed on Courage, Zeal, Renown, Crusade;
1978 last of the Courage as 2nd Eng – then left.
Good day
My name is Jim Catlow I served 6 years with Liners from 1972-1978, having
mainly served on the Courage rising from 4th to 2nd Engineer, I ended
up on her last voyage and went as guarantee engineer when she was sold
to Honk Kong island Shipping Company.
I served with Ray Camilieri Chief Steward; Smudge Smith 2nd Steward; Josh
White Chief Engineer; Evil Harry Chief Engineer; A-B Askew, Master; Dia
Thomas Master; Barry Hawthorne Personnel; Joe Chief Officer Manchester
Renown; George Nansom Eng Super; and the majority of the eng supers etc
etc
I remember all the characters of which the industry is so bereft,
I would like to join the association. I am still working in the Industry.
Looking fwd to a meet up with me old ship mates.
Best regards
J Catlow.
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Richard & AnnetteSimpson ..joined
January 2007
Eng Cadet 75-79, then 5th Engineer until absorbed in to Furness Withy
in 82
Richard replied to Peter Cullen:
Captain Pete,
As I had a look through the web site a few days ago I was amazed at the
number of names there were around that I recognised. You may be surprised
to hear that although I am now nearly 50 years old and the Chief Engineer
of a large cruise liner you were the Master when I did my first trip as
a cadet on the Manchester Vanguard in 1977. This was the vessels second
voyage when she went to Japan and back via the Suez. Do you remember playing
deck golf against me? You kept saying "No pressure" as I played
my shots and I was terrified of winning!!
As far as I can remember on that trip was Bill Lowe as mate, who I now
see is also a member here, Pete Johnson was sparky, and I have just noticed
that his wife has now also passed away, Walter Stargeant was Chief, Neil
Howard was Second, Henry Stacker was Third, Alan Johns was Fourth and
we had six cadets in total, two Engineers and four Deck lads.
Wonderful days that I still remember very fondly and I feel so proud to
have been involved with a proper shipping company while we still had them.
Of course my association with Manchester Liners goes back even further
as, if I remember correctly you knew my father, Ken Simpson, when he was
at sea with the company. I know he sailed with the likes of Eddie Weeks
and Gus Hannaford who both then looked after me on the cadet scheme from
'75 to '79.
Anyway I would love to communicate with some of the members that I have
had associations with in the past and hopefully even get to meet some
one day.
Once again many thanks for your reply, I look forward to further communications
Best regards
Richard Simpson (In those days Rick the Dip!)
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Michael Brown joined in January only
days before the Newsletter went to press
Nov 61–July 62 & Oct 67–July 70 – Spinner, City,
Trader, Mariner, Exporter, Fame as Asst Steward – 2nd Steward on
Fame.
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The following are no longer members
Bill Cain – decided not to renew his membership after 2005, but we will still keep in contact with him through mutual friends – and we wish him good health and a good computer link to our website.
Others who have not renewed are Forbes Jamieson, Lyn Nestorowicz and Ann White
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If any member requires an up-to-date
members list please contact the Hon Sec Steve Worthington
- email to info@manchesterliner.co.uk
- or use the website mailbag
Membership lists will also be available at Didsbury and St Anne’s
Reunions.
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