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Owing to the large volume of spam mail that this email address now attracts, which is automatically deleted by our security, please will you include in the subject line of your email one of the following, whichever is relevant to you: A
ship name and year. Please note that our Mailbag email address is for the use of members only. Unless specifically requested for a reply, all enquiries for this page, or if anyone remembers any of the people who are listed, or can help with any item on this page, please contact our Hon.Sec. by email at: We regret that Manchester Liners Old Shipmates Association does not have access to any crew lists. However we will add your enquiries relating to past crew members to this page in the hope that someone will recognise a name and contact us. Any replies that we receive will be posted on this page in red, with, or linked to the relevant enquiry. An email will be sent to the enquirer notifying of such posting. Email and contact addresses have been removed for data protection.
Researching Merchant Navy history - how to obtain Discharge Book recordsCurrently, seafarers’ records between 1940 and 1973 are held in National Archives, at the Public Records Office in Kew. After 1973 the Registrar General was not required by legislation to keep these records. You may visit Kew personally, but it is often difficult to locate information due to the vast numbers of documents held. A simple and comparatively low cost option is to use a professional researcher such as Tim Hughes & Associates. They are very experienced in this field and can carry out this work for a small fee. Please visit their website for further information – www.timhughes.com. For other records, there are a number of excellent commercial publications which include seafarers’ records or use a genealogist.
From: Colin
May Colin May wrote from dartmouth, NS I am trying to think how you may be able to locate any relatives who may be interested in the letter or a copy of the letter. The letter was inside a suitcase I purchased at an auction in Halifax, NS several years ago. Thank you and Merry Christmas,
From: John Tabbron Dear Manchester Liners, He served on Spinner, Progress and Port and made a total of 7 journeys. I would love to be able to obtain details of his sailings and if possible, give him some photographs of the vessels he served on : Spinner 5 Nov 60 9 Dec 60 Progress 1 Apr 61 9 Jun 61 Port 1 Jul 61 16
Aug 61 His BSC No was 05971A and
his discharge A number was R733328. Unfortunately our copied crew lists are no help
- can you help with any photographs for which we have permission
to reproduce?
From: Ross
DiGiorgio To Whom It May Concern: I am trying to find out some information on about my grandfather, Carlos Olmedo, who was employed by ML during WWII up until his untimely death which happened on board in the year 1953. My mother is from Manchester and we have often talked about him but she has no records of his death because she married a GI in 1945 and came to the states in 1946. She did not return to her homeland again until 1966. I would appreciate your help in pointing me in the right direction. Sincerely, Ross DiGiorgio
From: David and Di Souch On going through some old family documents I have come across a map/chart detailing the passage of the above ship from Montreal to Manchester via Quebec sailing on the 12th August 1937,and commanded by G.M. Mitchell. The map/chart shows a daily list of date, course, distance, N Lat, and W Long. I know my aunt, my Father's sister, Dorethea Mitchell, visited Canada and returned home about this time, and wonder if she travelled on the ship commanded by what could be a family member. Is it possible for you to give me any information about G.M. Mitchell and his career with Manchester Liners Ltd., and if my aunt was indeed apassenger. Sadly any family member who may have been able to help me died several years ago. In hope you can help Diana Souch (nee Mitchell)
From: Dave
Brown
From: David
Beeny Dear Sir My father Eric Beeny served with Manchester Liners and i bellive was torpedoed at about 1940/1941 he was taken to America and spent six weeks in hstpital . Have you any information regarding this etc. David Beeny son of Eric
From: Kay,
Sandra Hi, I don't suppose you could put on your website, a call for anyone who has details of one of my dads surviving brothers, a Mr Cyril Foster, married to Annie Foster. I have trawled the internet and contacted every couple, where the two names reside at the same address, but to no avail. My Uncle Cyril, as I recall, also one time served with the Merchant Navy, so it may be possible that he still has contact with some of his old mates. I understand he is still in the Manchester/Salford, surrounding area. We lost touch with him, in the years following my dad's death, but I would dearly love to make contact with them if possible. Anyway, it was just a thought, if it is possible, that would be great, but don't worry if not. Anyway, hope to be in touch soon. Thanks again Sandra
From: Nicklas, Nancy - OASAM Hello. I am looking for any type of information you may be able to provide on a crew member who jumped ship in Philadelphia, PA in the USA back in about 1916. His name was Joseph Johnston. He was married to Roseanne Johnston and left her behind in the UK with about 9 children. We are trying to find out what happened to Mr. Johnston. Thank you. He was on the Manchester Miller. Nancy M. Nicklas
From: ML Webmaster Hi Nancy Manchester Liners as a Company ceased trading in the 1980's and no longer exists. Our Association is solely of Old Shipmates and people ashore who worked for or were associated with the Company. We do not have any crew lists. Please see: http://manchesterliners.co.uk/about.htm Unless someone can help you from your message that we have posted, I regret that we can be of no further assistance. Regards Derrick Howarth MLOSA Hon Webmaster
From: Bill
Purdon Dear Sirs We (Victoria Navigation) are a recently formed shipping company in Cyprus, all senior shore personnel are ex UK flag seafarers and as such we are endeavoring to adorn our offices with artifacts and memorabilia from the halcyon days when the red duster was a common sight around the world. I recently became the owner of a ship’s clock, the dial of which is clearly marked Manchester City. I strongly believe that the clock once hung on a bulkhead of S.S. Manchester City (II). At least the dates fit, the Glasgow connection is definitely there and of course I doubt if the Football Club of the same name would have a ship’s clock. I am wondering if any of your members could confirm that indeed the clock is from the afore mentioned vessel, I attach a photograph which may jog a few memories. Secondly, if it is confirmed that the clock did belong to the ship, I was wondering where I may obtain a good photograph of the ship (as depicted on your very informative web site) or a copy of a photograph to enable us to, in some small way re-unite ship and clock. I myself served my apprenticeship with Canadian Pacific and sailed in the ranks of 5th, 4th and 3rd Engineer until the accountants managed to destroy another wonderful company. Looking forward to receiving any information you may have.
From: ML
Webmaster Hello Bill Thank you for your email. In 1963 I sailed as Senior Apprentice/Acting 4th Mate on the second S.S. Manchester City. Unfortunately though I cannot identify that particular clock as there were many around the ship. Please find the attached photograph of her. This was the official Manchester Liners photo. I regret that the other photo of her on the web site taken in the M.S.C. is protected by copyright and special permissions had to be sought and conditions met to add many of these photos. She was 7296 GRT, built in 1937. At the outbreak of WWII she was requisitioned and under the command of Manchester Liners Captain J. Barclay she became a naval auxiliary mine laying "mother" ship until December 1940 when she was transferred to the Admiralty; later she was sent to the Indian Ocean, where she played her full part in the Far Eastern war. At the end of WWII she was refitted and returned to Manchester Liners sailing on the Western Ocean run to the eastern seaboard of the U.S.A, Canadian Maritimes, Montréal and Great Lakes. When on the Great Lakes run, as with other ML ships trading up the Lakes, her livery was changed from the traditional black hull and red boot topping to pale green hull and dark green boot topping, with the upper works being changed from white to broken white. This was, I understand, to counter the high temperatures experienced in the summer in that part of the world. She stayed in service until 1964 when she was broken up at Faslane.
From: Bill
Purdon Good Morning Derrick Your information is most appreciated. I contacted the seller of the clock who said that it was her Uncles’ and he had sailed on the Manchester City as Chief Engineer, I assume he was on her for the voyage to Faslane and of course was handy with a screw driver. We will place the clock in our board room, along with the photograph and the history you have provided. I thank you again for your assistance and wish all MLOSA members happy memories of what was a traditional ‘Red Duster’ company. Rgds
From: R. Lee G'day I am note sure if you can assist in this matter, but its worth a try, I am researching my father in law's career from 1914 to about 1950, so far I have learnt from Southampton archives he sailed as a fireman on the Mantua around 1914-15, I have photos of him suggesting he was on the Campania 1914?, Victory 1915, Osnebruck, Woten & Lucigen around 1919-20, Manchester Exchange and Manchester Hero around 1920-21, his discharge card suggests he left the exchange then but I have had a contact from an 85 year old that says he was on the exchange in the 40's. My father in law was called Fred Chester and he was listed on his marriage & death certificate as stoker he was born 1896 and died around 1968 .I am trying to find out what other ships he was on around 1922 to 1950, he lived in Manchester so I am assuming he stayed with Manchester Liners or at least based at Salford docks, Would anyone have relatives that served during that period that may have knew him. I have carried out variuos fruitless searches so far I know its a long shot but worth trying. Best Regards Raymond Lee
From: Nicklas, Nancy - OASAM Hello: I am doing research on my family history. I am wondering if you have any record of a Joseph James Maguire (born in 1870) coming to the US between 1918 and 1921. According to a letter that we have found, he referred to himself as “chips aboard one of the Manchester Liners.” Apparently, he jumped ship. We think he landed in Philadelphia but we are not sure. He says he was all over the Ports of France. We are trying to find out what happened to him. Perhaps, he left the US and tried to return to the UK. If you can be of any assistance, I would appreciate any information you are able to provide. Thank you very much. Nancy M. Nicklas
From: Billy McGee Hello John, Rgds Billy
From: John Smithies Dear Members, I was a merchant navy seaman in the 1960's and would be interested to know if anyone knows of any builders case models for sale, ie: Manchester Liners or any other line. Your response to this would be much appreciated. Kind Regards John Smithies
From: "sylvia" My grandfather was a member of the crew of the above ship (a carpenter) before it was torpedoed in 1917 on it's return trip to GB. We believe he jumped ship when it arrived in Philadelphia. Is there any way we can confirm that he was a member of the ships crew? Thanks in anticipation. Sylvia Stenhouse Sorry Sylvia, we do not have access to any crew lists.
From: Richard Swindells Dear Sir I thought you may be interested to know that my Father, Harry Swindells, was an Apprentice to Manchester Liners. He was born on the 14/08/1905 at Hyde in Cheshire. My sister has his documents. I do not know how long he sailed with the Company. He later became a Medic in Italy and returned to the sea after the war. From his Discharge Log it looks like he last sailed on the M.V. Gaelic Integrity, 19th July 1957 as Second Mate, discharged at Barry in Glamorgan. I doubt you have any member who may have known him. His service would have prewar with the Company but I thought you may be interested. Many thanks Richard Swindells
From: ML Info Sorry for the delay in replying. I think your best bet would be to try Lloyds Register of Shipping - most good libraries will keep a copy of the Lloyds List of Shipping Movements or you could try http://www.lr.org/Industries/Marine/Home which is Lloyds Register home page for enquiries. Sorry I can't help any further but we will keep your enquiry open for a while in case somebody happens to know the answer. Regards, Manchester Liners Old Shipmates
From: John McEvoy Many thanks,
From: ML Hon
Sec Dear Bob, Very sorry for the long delay - we have been away so much with the vintage car season on the go. Great to hear from you - and we have several members in Australia who you might like to catch up with sometime too. I regret to say we are off again the morning but will be back home next week so as soon as I get home I will get a full package of information off to you and give you all the details of the Old Shipmates Association. Meanwhile I will forward to your email to John Cryer. Regards,
From: ML
Hon Sec Dear David You may reply to me, to webmaster (as your original enquiry), or to info@manchesterliners.co.uk and we'll try to look into it further for you. Regards,
From: Michael Derrick Hi just thought I'd let you know one of the ships: Ilkin
Tak appeared on an episode of Columbo- it's about an irish arms dealer in America, (just saw it on Norwegian tv today).. Yes the Ilkon Tak was the ex Manchester Faith (1) and did feature in a film about gun running. Captain Pete
From: J Daniels Gentlemen, This responds to an older e-mail from Tom Martin in 2006. I have just come across it while browsing the site. I think I remember Tom from the Prospector, certainly our time there coincided as I was Chief Officer from June to December 1958. As I recall Alan Cookson was Master and Peter Boniface Second Mate. I left Liners then so can provide no more information but send my best wishes. John Daniels, Ottawa, Canada
From: William Moult MSP Manchester Liners July 23 2008 Re Loss of Manchester Commerce (1) which was lost on October 27 1914 after hitting a mine layed by the SMS Berlin near Tory Island Donegal Dear Sir/Madam I am looking for any information about the above ship. This is in connection with a tv documentary I am working on about the sinking of the Superdreadnought HMS Audacious the same day. What happened was that the Berlin having sailed from Wilhelmshaven laid around 200 mines in the shipping lanes off northern Ireland. The Manchester Commerce was I think the first ship to run in to one of these but news of the event did not reach the Admiralty straight away. If it had, the HMS Audacious , at that time a brand new battleship , part of the Grand Fleet based in Loch Swilly in Donegal and engaged in gunnery practice would have been ordered to stay in base until the minefield had been swept. The story of this event will appear in our documentary series for ITV later this year. It is called Deep Wreck Mysteries. If you hold or know of any archive information, photos, records etc of these long ago events, I would be most interested to hear about them William Moult Mallinson Sadler Productions Ltd. 18, Mortimer Rd, Clifton, Bristol BS8 4EY More Background on MSP here I work for MSP - a television production company based in Bristol. We are preparing some new films for our historical documentary series, "Deep Wreck Mysteries". Our first series series was screened last year in the UK and also overseas. The stories are about wrecks lying in British waters from WWI and WW2. There are a number of films planned for Series Two. They are about warships, U-Boats and merchantmen. As before the plan is to produce films that contain a mixture of underwater, archive and contemporary footage plus interviews with witnesses, family members , historians etc. HMS Audacious lies in about 60 metres of water off the coast of NW Ireland. Our divers have recently been filming the wreck for our series. Compared with some of the other wrecks we are featuring the Audacious can be seen in great detail. The visibility in that area is excellent . the ship lies upside down with her four huge screws uppermost. Some of the gun barrels can also be seen as well as the damage the ship sustained when she exploded in the final stages of the sinking. Our film will set out to tell the story of what happened to the Audacious. How the German liner SMS Berlin, converted to a mine layed a series of mines in the area north of Loch Swilly when it had been ordered to lay them in the Irish Sea Firth of Clyde area but the commander thought that was too risky and decided to go to NW Ireland instead. These mines also accounted for a merchant ship, The Manchester Commerce a few hours before the Audacious was hit, but the information was not known in time to stop the battleship steaming to that area for gunnery practice. Although the ship was armoured in many areas it seems that the mine hit in a weak spot and that thereafter the crew were unable to stop the water coming in. Here is a list of all the films we are making: 1. The story of U 480. The "Stealth" submarine. Under command of Olt. Z. S. Hans Joachim Foerster. The U 480, sank HMS Alberni and HMS Loyalty and then two days later the Fort Yale and the Orminster. The U 480 herself is believed to have hit a mine sometime between 29 Jan and 20 Feb 1945. 2. The story of SS Leopoldville. Sunk December 24 1944 off Cherbourg. Torpedoed by U 486 Commander Olt z. S Gerhard Meyer Also sank HMS Affleck and HMS Capel in the same area 2 days later. 3. The story of The "Bone Wrecks" lying off the coast of north Devon. Ships include 8,800 tons SS Armenian, and 6103 ton HMS Patia. Patia sunk 13 June 1918 by UC 49 Commander named: Hans Kuekenthal. 4. The story of HMS Curacoa. Lost after collision with RMS Queen Mary 5. The story of the sinking of HMS Audacious off coast of Northern Ireland following collision with mine layed by SS Berlin in 1914. From: ML Hon Treasurer Good Evening William, thank you for your interesting enquiry. I am the treasurer of the Manchester Liners Old Shipmates Association. I hope the following may be of some help to you :- Manchester Commerce on the 26/10/14 was sunk by a mine off Tory Island and was the first ship to be mined. Other losses were :- Manchester Engineer during third trip from the U.S.A. with supplies was torpedoed off Waterford on the 27/3/16 Manchester Importer was requisitioned two days after war was declared and landed her first cargo of "Old Contemptibles" to the Western Front at Havre on the 17/8/14, Kahki was not available and troops went to France in their scarlet jackets and busbies abd continued doing this until she was torpedoed on the 20/5/18. At the time she was under the command of Captain P Linton and later managed to reach Southampton safely. 12/11/15 Manchester Merchant (Captain E.W.C. Beggs and Chief Officer (later Captain H.Brown) en route from Canada saved 15 men from the Brazilian barque Storeng foundering in a gale. Manchesre Engineer (Captain R Smith) was sunk 27/3/16 Manchester Inventor (Captain H Williams) sunk off Ireland on 18/1/17 Manchester Citizen (Captain J.E.Everest) sunk 26/4/16 in the North Atlantic. Manchester Trader (ex Archenbloe) engaged a submarine in a running fight in the Mediterranean before being sunk - Captain F.D.Struss and Chief Engineer W.R.Stobo both received the D.S.C. on the 4/6/16. Manchester Miller (Captain W.A.Caldwell) was sunk 190 miles off the Fasnet Rock with the loss of eight lives on the 5/6/16 I hope you might find these comments of some assistance in your research and would be obliged if you could let me know when your programme is scheduled to be shown. Regards Captain P.D.Cullen
From: John McEvoy I need help. I wish to contact Dart Container Line. Does this company stll exist or has it changed its name? Any help you can give would be appreciated. John McEvoy
From: R Lee Hi Steve I was given your email address from John Reagan via John Strange.
My late father in law sailed with John Reagan. I have been trying
to find out information on my relative. Hope you can help Raymond Lee
From: David Malvern Dear Sir or Madam, Have you got the right ship name, as there was only one S.S. Manchester Freighter? She was the ex S.S. Cairnforth that was built for Cairn Thompson Line in 1959 and acquired by Manchester Liners in 1965. She was sold in 1969 to Royal Mail Lines and renamed S.S. Lombardy. I am sorry that I cannot help you further. Derrick Howarth ML Hon. Webmaster
From: David Lever Joan Kristjansson asked about immigration details arriving aboard the SS Manchester Port in Halifax 1954. There is a website with a research function for all immigrants in Halifax NS she may find what she is looking for there. http://pier21.ca/ Regards. Dave Lever
From: Ian Buckley Good morning, Just checked out your website & what a blast from the past! I joined the company in 1975 until made redundant by Furness in early Jan 1982. I served as 3rd mate on all the so-called 'magic' boats, as well as Frontier, Vigour, Zeal, Concept, Renown, Reward, Vanguard & Venture. My name is Ian Buckley, married to Marilyn who sailed with me on the Asian Renown in 1976, of which she has fond memories this being her only seagoing trip. We particularly remember Peggy & Jim Illingworth, who treated Marilyn like a daughter on that voyage. Also John Turnbull, Frank Nichol & many others I discovered during my trawl through your site. Kind regards, Ian & Marilyn Buckley, South Shields.
From: Jigge Dear unknown! or? if there will be an answer, please use simple words. I can talk tolerable, but writing is ..! Best regards John G. Björberg Thank you for the photograph of the Manchester Shipper. I will add it to the web site as it is of historical value. This is the same ship as the Manchester Shipper (2) as found on the web site. She was built in 1943 and all this class of ship - the Manchester Port (3) 1935, Manchester City (2) 1937, Manchester Progress (1) 1938, Manchester Trader (3) 1941 and Manchester Regiment (2) 1947 - were built with cabs on the bridge wings. Their bridges were later modified in the early 1950's. The Manchester City (2) had a major refit at the end of World War II before being handed back to Manchester Liners by The Admiralty, her having served as a naval auxiliary mine laying "mother" ship until December 1940 when she was transferred to the Admiralty; later she was sent to the Indian Ocean, where she played her full part in the Far Eastern war. You will see from her photos that not only did she gain a new bridge, Sampson posts were also added in front of the bridge. These changes can been seen on the photographs of some of these ships on the web site. Regards Derrick Howarth ML Hon. Webmaster
From: Bob Galloway Old shipmates, I joined the "Cairnglen" as 3rd.Mate on the 19th September 1966 with Capt.Illingworth and was onboard when she was renamed "Manchester Fame" in Dec/Jan 1967 still as 3rd Mate with Capt.Cockshoot. On the 20th Feb.'67 I joined the "Manchester Progress" at Smiths Dock ? Middlesborough as 3rd.Mate.delivered her to Manchester with Capt.Cookson and completed her maiden voyage to the Great Lakes and back to Manchester. Joined "Manchester Progress" as 2nd Mate 26th Sept.'67 with Capt.Cookson and Capt.Thomas until joining "Manchester Port" with Capt.Thompson in November 1968. My last ship was "Manchester Fame" as Chief Officer from May 1969 till May 1970 with Capts.Rourke,Rowlands and Humphrey. I am a 3rd generation Australian who after "serving my time" with the E&A Company (part of P&O) running between Australia and Asia with "pommie" officers and engineers,chinese crew and 12 passengers..........shipped out on deck with "Hungry" Hogarth on the "Baron Belhaven"......arriving eventually in Liverpool where I obtained my 2nd Mates Certificate. Then sailed with the United Baltic Corporation and a "Geordie" ship called the "Pennyworth" by name and nature,before joining Manchester Liners. I did Mates and Masters in Hull where I lived after marrying and still married to my lovely wife Janet. I remember Capt.John Whitby,Mouatt and of course Peter Bonniface as well as my good mate and personal family friend John Cryer who I'd love to hear from. After leaving the "Fame" Janet and I and our son Richard moved to Sydney Australia.Since then we've had another son and moved all round Australia working for Australias biggest company BHP Billiton.....I also spent a few years with P&O Stevedoring and some time in the scrap metal industry We're are now semi retired to Ballina in Northern NSW and I work part time with a Bio Diesel company and commute regularly to Melbourne in Victoria nad Mackay in Queensland. I would like to become a member of Manchester Liners Old Shipmates Association and catch up with John Cryer and any of my old shipmates especially any who may be living in Australia My contact details are below and please feel free to distribute them as required. Kind regards Bob Galloway
From: David Chilton Dear Sir. I am looking for a old shipmate of mine. Barry (Tug) Wilson. Bosun, last saw him 20 years ago, Do have any information to his whereabouts? I think he came from Fleetwood. Regards David Chilton. We have a Bill Wilson on the books but no Barry Wilson. Capt Steve Worthington No it is not our Bill Wilson. Tug Wilson, Bosun sailed with me on two of our ships but what happened to him I know not. Capt. Peter Cullen
From: Jeff Thornton Hello, My GGrandfather was discharged in South Africa. He decided to stay and lay claim to gold, which turned to be profitable. Upon his return he was robbed murdered and dumped at sea. The death record shows the 9th of November 1901 as "accidently fell overboard". I have numerous correspondence relating to this and his widow attempting to get relief from 1902 to 1919. The government continued to disallow any claim as he was discharged in SA. Would you know if there is a ship's log for the Manchester Merchant or would that have gone up in smoke in dingle. Regards Jeff Thornton
From: Dave Beaumont Just came across your site. Not an ex M.L seaman but trying to locate ex shipmate from 1972 who was with M.L in 1973 I think . His name is Steve Sharrod from Heywood, Manchester. Hoping he has joined your group. If so can you please pass on my details as would love to catch up with him after 35 years. Thanks Dave Beaumont Melbourne, Australia Sorry, but we do not have a member of that name. Maybe someone else will recognise him and be able to help you.
From: Robert Martin Hello, I am tracing the steps my mother took from Canada to England as a WW2 nurse. I believe she travelled on the Manchester Port from Montreal to either Liverpool or Manchester in July 1944 and that this journey was a part of convoy HX298. I have a postcard photo of the ship signed by the crew which I found in Mum's papers. I am wondering if any of the crew might still be alive and hoping I might find someone with a photo or two of that voyage. I know this is a long shot! Thanks for any help you may be able to offer. Rob Martin
From: Joan Kristjansson I need to prove my landed immigrant status in Canada and I need your help. Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
From: David Lever Derrick, I have a couple of these plates and I believe the 11 Y 59 would be the 11th month 1959 (date of firing) these plates were to commemorate the opening of the Seaway and interestingly enough it’s the 50th Anniversary in 2009.
Best Regards. Dave (Syd) Lever
From: Terry Slattery Hello On a recent trip to Donegal Ireland, I came across the graves of some of the crew of the above including the Captain. They are at rest at Cruit Island, Kincasslagh, Donegal. Hope this might be of interest Terry Slattery
From: Graham Fordy Dear Sir or Madam, I am trying to search for ship which called at Manchester Docks, in 1963 to 1965.The reason is I went aboard her with the sea cadets,and was given a plate so I could remember my visit. I thimk it may have been the Manchester City but I am not certain.Any help please.I have photo of plate if required. Thanks Graham. Sorry I forgot to give you the name of the cadet unit, It was T.S.Quantock, Ashton-u-Lyne. It may be enterd in ships visitor log. Thanks again Graham.
From: Ian Hughes Hello Just to give you an update . I will be performing my play “ship songs” in August this year. The story of my mother’s journey to Canada is the core of the play but it also deals with an escaped convict coming ashore in New Zealand in 1795 and the story of Zheng he . He was the admiral of the Chinese’s ming emperors treasure fleet in 1402 . all with only myself on stage! I have bent the truth a little but as they say “you can’t let the truth get in the way of a good yarn”! It would be amazing to get some photos of the Progress and also of your good self, both then and now if that is at all possible? Anything you have would be fantastic! Also it would be good to get some technical details of the Progress – date commissioned , scrapped ( I have read the amazing account of the captain taking it to Split on the web site) size, displacement, how long it took to get to Canada from Manchester and what became of Tiger Lewis? anything really… As you can see I have lots of questions and answers to any or all would be really appreciated. I am happy to supply some images and details of the play for the Manchester lines archive. Huge thank you’s in advance Ian Hughes
From: Ralph Murray I have just recently come across your website which is most interesting and informative. My name is Ralph Murray and was with Furness/ML/OOCL for thirty four years mostly in Montreal. I was GM Transportation North America until the OOCL takeover and then became TM Canada from 1981/84 when I returned to my native Saint John, N .B. However, back to the Commemorative Plate. I also am in possession of one with the inscription on the reverse although I cannot make out the number. I recall being told that Wedgwood issued a limited number exclusively for ML and they apparently received permission from ML to produce a quantity for public sale but without the inscription on the reverse. I'm afraid that is all I can recall although the number sent out to Canada was quite limited.
From: Barry
Prentice This is a message for Nigel Caley regarding cargo airships. We have an association in Canada devoted to the revival of this industry, www.isopolar.ca We welcome you to visit our site and welcome your interest in cargo airships. Best regards, Barry Dr. Barry E. Prentice website: http://umanitoba.ca/faculties/management/ti/ `If some countries have too much history, we have too much geography.' W.L.MacKenzie King (1874-1950) former Prime Minister of Canada
From: Ray Lloyd This is a response to Patrick Callaghan's post of the 28 September 2007. I have only recently seen your e-mail to the Manchester Liners website regarding the Stobo family, several of which were employed by the company as ships engineers. I have recently completed research into my wife's Grandfather who was employed by the company in a seagoing capacity and have come across a document with the Stobo name on it . I am asking the ML website webmaster to pass on my e-mail address to you, and if you care to follow it up, e-mail me and we will exchange information on our apparent family link. Kind regards, Ray Lloyd
From: Ken Roberts Hi. I have already sent an email but it appears to have been a victim of the sites security. Always worth a second try. My name is Ken Roberts and I joined the Manchester Renown 2 as a Junior Catering Rating fresh out of the training school in Liverpool (1980). My last trip to Montreal coincided with John Lennons murder. Funny how you always remember where you were at times like that. I recall only a couple of names from my time with ML. Captain N. Cockshoot was the chap in charge. The Catering Officer was a gentleman by the name of Brian Appleyard I think. The Chief Steward was called Eric (possibly). I can't recall the Chief Cooks name but he kept singing this one particular song with the the words: my sherona, or something to that effect. Sorry I can't be of more help.I had a nickname on board..... Aspro. I had a nickname on board..... Aspro. It would be lovely to hear from anyone who remembers me (if anyone does). My son, was very interested to hear about the ship. Does anyone have a good photo they might be able to send? Kind regards Ken Roberts
We do not invent these enquiries – honest. But between us all we manage to answer most of the enquiries which the website brings in. If anyone remembers any of the people listed or can help with any item on this page, please contact our Hon.Sec. by email at: info@manchesterliners.co.uk
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